**Thanks to Molly for this question she left in the comments, “Why is a negative times a positive, a negative?”**

It’s common to hear a child say, “They created this rule just to make me mad.”

And on the heels of that usually comes a frustrated teacher’s comment of, “No, this has a purpose.”

When then faced with, “Okay…

so what’s the purpose?” a teacher or parent might become more frustrated. It’s not always clear the purpose of things like the rules for multiplying differently signed numbers.

It may also be that the grown-up secretly believes that this ** was** all created just to make us mad. After all, when the last time you had to multiply a negative number times a positive number in the real world?

I, personally, can’t ever remember a time when that case has come up outside of a math class or tutoring session.

### Then why create the rules at all?

The truth is that many math rules are created because we need a rule to continue working – something to agree on among peers working on the same project. We need everyone on the same page.

This agreement somehow gets filtered down to the kiddos as “this is the absolute way it is – do it because we said.”

So it very much looks like we created rules to make them mad.

Good deduction, kids.

### How do *they* pick the rules?

Some math rules are created arbitrarily just so we have something (anything) to agree to. Like the rules of a game. The order of operations is one such situation.

There is no natural reason why we’ve chosen to do multiplication and division before we do addition and subtraction. No more so than the people in the US have decided to drive on one side of the road whereas the people in England, Australia and the Bahamas drive on the other.

We’ve agreed to it.

It keeps us from crashing.

Sometimes, we agree to a rule because it is “less bad” than any of the other possible rules we can think of. The result of any number raised to the zero power is one of these. 3^{0} feels like it should result in either zero or 3. But if you mess with all the other rules (in particular the one about subtracting exponents here ) you’ll see that 3^{0} really needs to be 1. If it were anything else, it would mess up the rule of .

### How do we teach crazy math rules?

Why is a negative times a positive equal to a negative? Is it because it messes other things up or is it an arbitrary rule? Instead of explaining the reasoning to a child, allow them discover it.

Have a “King for a Day” day where the students get to rewrite a particular math rule. Allow them to sit as a class or family and decide on the rules for multiplying signs numbers.

Give them plenty of time to experiment and see if the new rule messes anything up. (If your administrators or math curriculum specialists fret about you allowing students this time, note to them that the students are behaving like real mathematicians. They are inventing a concept or rule and testing it out to see what happens.)

If the students discover that the new rule has dire consequences when applied to the rest of our number system, they then see the reason for the rule. And they’ve learned through experience and solidified the rule in their minds!

If the students discover that there are no consequences of the new rule, they can then determine that the rule was created arbitrarily and agreed upon for convenience. It is a rule for rules’ sake.

You can discuss with them how things would be different if they kept the new rule and everyone else in the world followed the old rule. Again experience and discussion will solidify the “real” rule.

So the next time you’re faced with “why?” regarding a math rule, give it a shot. Let the children be the rulers of their own math world!

Will it work? Did it work? Share your thoughts in the comments!

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Maybe my reasoning is wrong but for some reason I usually think of negative numbers in terms of money owed. So a negative times a positive would come out negative. ex. If I owe three children five dollars each for an allowance -5 X 3 would be -15 or 15 dollars owed.

That’s a great way to think about it, Jennifer.

I had never thought of it that way. Thanks so much!