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Transcript from March 18, 2011 to March 18, 2011

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March 18, 2011
1:21 am mathfour: I'm fixing to have to get ready for #HSMath - it's coming up in 40 minutes. #mathchat
1:24 am mathfour: @leighbra Happy birthday mini-Leighbra! #hsmath
1:30 am mathfour: Only 30 minutes until #HSMath party. We're picking topics for subsequent chats. Wanna come? http://ht.ly/4gcYr #homeschool #math
1:50 am mathfour: Only 10 minutes! I can hardly stand it! #HSMath http://ht.ly/4gd0n
2:00 am mathfour: Welcome to the first ever #Homeschool #math chat - don't forget to use the special hashtag #HSMath
2:01 am mathfour: Tonight is the special unofficial launch just to get things rolling and find out some topics to put on the agenda. #HSMath
2:06 am mathfour: What kind of topics would you like to see discussed in this special Twitter Party for #homeschool #math folks and renegade teachers? #HSMath
2:07 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles Did you zonk on me? #HSMath
2:11 am mathfour: Here are some possibilities: subject specific (teaching functions, fractions, fractals) and home specific (who teaches and why) #HSMath
2:13 am Turkeydoodles: Hi! Sorry I'm late! #HSmath
2:13 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles Hey there! #HSMath
2:13 am SchoolmarmDE: How late am I? #HSMath
2:13 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles So what do you think? What are some topics you would like to see discussed? #HSMath
2:13 am Turkeydoodles: sorry - birthday celebrations ran over! #HSmath
2:14 am Turkeydoodles: Hi SchoolmarmDE! Today is your birthday too, right? #HSmath
2:14 am mathfour: @SchoolmarmDE You're right on time! We just opened a 4th dimensional spot for you! #HSMath
2:14 am marymakesmusic: Hi...interested in more math ideas! #HSMath
2:14 am SchoolmarmDE: @mathfour Another topic I think would be good is when you teach what. Like, why are we restricting fractions to 4th grade? #HSMath
2:15 am Turkeydoodles: @mathfour Nice! #HSmath
2:15 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles @SchoolmarmDE So many birthdays today! I have two friends whose birthday is today! #HSMath
2:15 am SchoolmarmDE: @Turkeydoodles Yes, birthdays run rampant, lol. #HSMath
2:15 am Turkeydoodles: I teach my four year olds fractions. Why wait? #HSmath
2:15 am mathfour: @marymakesmusic When you write "math ideas" - what do you mean? Ideas to make it interesting? #HSMath
2:16 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles Fractions are great at any age. What about a night on fractions - would we be able to spend an hour on that? #HSMath
2:16 am nolamom76: I'm here #hsmath
2:16 am marymakesmusic: @mathfour I guess ideas/games/strategies to motivate reluctant learners #HSMath
2:17 am Turkeydoodles: Hiya! No worries - we are all just arriving! RT @nolamom76: Im here #HSmath
2:17 am mathfour: @SchoolmarmDE That's a good one - figuring out what are good times and which things really need to come before which other things. #HSMath
2:17 am Turkeydoodles: Why are they reluctant/ RT @marymakesmusic: @mathfour I guess ideas/games/strategies to motivate reluctant learners #HSmath
2:17 am mathfour: @marymakesmusic Motivating reluctant learners - that's a great one! #HSMath
2:18 am SchoolmarmDE: I'll introduce myself. 5 kids. 22,15,13,10,7. Wide variety in math talents and interests. Unschool-type, but some formal teaching. #HSMath
2:18 am nolamom76: Dear followers, sorry for the extra tweets,in chat about #homeschool math, join us #HSmath
2:18 am mathfour: @nolamom76 Hey there! How was the sushi? #HSMath
2:18 am Turkeydoodles: Salman Kahn has that great ladder worked out, for order of things to learn things in #HSmath
2:18 am marymakesmusic: @Turkeydoodles I agree...we shouldn't put age restrictions on math concepts #HSMath
2:19 am Turkeydoodles: I have 3 kids, twin almost five year old girls, and their 2.5 year old brother. Some formal stuff, some unschooly goodness. :) #HSmath
2:19 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles But is it the best or only way? That might be worth investigating on my part. #HSMath
2:19 am nolamom76: @mathfour wasn't me, that was oh gosh I forgot her screen name #hsmath
2:20 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles My favorite new term "unschooly goodness" :D #HSMath
2:20 am Turkeydoodles: Of course not, but a good place to start? RT @mathfour: @Turkeydoodles But is it the best or only way? #HSmath
2:20 am Turkeydoodles: Leighbra! RT @nolamom76: @mathfour wasnt me, that was oh gosh I forgot her screen name #HSmath
2:21 am Turkeydoodles: That is what I call it when I get out of their way! RT @mathfour: @Turkeydoodles My favorite new term "unschooly goodness" :D #HSmath
2:21 am nolamom76: I have 2 kids 9 and 2, mostly formal with lots of hands on and field trips #hsmath
2:21 am SchoolmarmDE: RT @mathfour: @Turkeydoodles My favorite new term "unschooly goodness" :D #HSMath
2:21 am nolamom76: @Turkeydoodles @mathfour yes her #hsmath
2:22 am Turkeydoodles: So are we all looking for ideas for elem age kids? #HSmath
2:22 am mathfour: @nolamom76 Arg! Sorry! #HSMath
2:22 am marymakesmusic: Are you participating in the math chat tonight? #hsmath
2:22 am nolamom76: unschooling appeals to me, but I'm too lazy LOL I need someone to tell me what to do #hsmath
2:22 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles I would say any age - any age that you would teach at home. #HSMath
2:22 am SchoolmarmDE: @mathfour Right now, big math issue is the prep for standardized tests. Pretty hilarious. #HSMath
2:23 am mylittlesoapbox: Hello. I'm on the computer so I thought I would pop in for a bit. I've got 6 and 9 both boys. Maths 1st(ish) and 4th(ish) #hsmath
2:23 am nolamom76: @Turkeydoodles my 9 year old is on middle school level, so math is about to get harder #hsmath
2:23 am mathfour: @nolamom76 Okay - that would be a good topic - ways to structure an unschool atmosphere (for those who need that) #HSMath
2:23 am Turkeydoodles: Yours in school? RT @SchoolmarmDE: @mathfour Right now, big math issue is the prep for standardized tests. Pretty hilarious. #HSmath
2:24 am mathfour: @mylittlesoapbox Welcome - great to see you! #HSMath
2:24 am SchoolmarmDE: @nolamom76 I keep a rough eye on state standards, but they're usually in the rearview mirror, lol #HSmath
2:24 am nolamom76: RT @marymakesmusic: Are you participating in the math chat tonight? #hsmath
2:24 am mathfour: @SchoolmarmDE In what state are you? And can you get samples or point me to a site with practice tests? #HSMath
2:24 am Turkeydoodles: I like the NCTM standards, but we don't test. #HSmath
2:25 am SchoolmarmDE: @Turkeydoodles No, none have been in school until college. But coming up on ACT, SAT with 2nd set. #HSMath
2:25 am mathfour: @nolamom76 @Turkeydoodles So middle school math would be good to consider - and dealing with the middle school kid while teaching. #HSMath
2:25 am nolamom76: @SchoolmarmDE I haven't even looked at the state standards, is that bad? We don't have to test so I'm not too worried #hsmath
2:25 am Turkeydoodles: Ah! Yikes RT @SchoolmarmDE: @Turkeydoodles No, none have been in school until college. But coming up on ACT, SAT with 2nd set. #HSmath
2:26 am SchoolmarmDE: @mathfour We're in Delaware. They leave us alone, but we're in the warm-up for college admissions. #HSMath
2:26 am Turkeydoodles: I was one of those weird teachers who LOVED middle schoolers. #HSmath
2:26 am mathfour: @nolamom76 @SchoolmarmDE We could do a discussion on standardized testing - where it's required and when it's a good idea. #HSMath
2:27 am SchoolmarmDE: @nolamom76 I keep fairly current w/state standards in case some reason we needed to put one or more in school, ease transition #HSMath
2:27 am marymakesmusic: Real world math vs. Standardized testing math...hmmm... #HSMath
2:27 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles I taught 9th grade math for a little bit. I LOVED those kiddos - so innocent and so cognizant. #HSMath
2:28 am Turkeydoodles: @mathfour Could you give us some of your background, please, Bon? #HSmath
2:28 am nolamom76: @mathfour @SchoolmarmDE loving all your ideas. Thanking about doing the CAT yearly, for hubby's sake LOL #hsmath
2:28 am SchoolmarmDE: @mathfour My experience with the first college admission process educated me a lot for the later ones. #HSMath
2:28 am mylittlesoapbox: @mathfour @nolamom76 @SchoolmarmDE I had my 9yr take the ITBS for the sole purpose of practicing standardized testing as a skill lol #hsmath
2:28 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles Of course! I taught college math for 11 years full time, then 4 years part time. A bit of high school thrown in. #HSMath
2:29 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles I also wrote math books and classes for Halliburton and I now write instructional materials for a independent. #HSMath
2:29 am nolamom76: @mylittlesoapbox @mathfour @SchoolmarmDE never a bad skill to have #hsmath
2:30 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles Most of my current clients are oilfield folks. I stopped teaching on Saturdays to have time for Daughter - 18mo #HSMath
2:30 am Turkeydoodles: @nolamom76 True, but I'm not really worried about it with my four year olds yet. ;) #HSmath
2:30 am SchoolmarmDE: @mathfour Fun. :) My late husband was a multivariate statistician. I've always been weak for mathy types. ;) #HSMath
2:31 am Turkeydoodles: @mathfour congrats! :) #HSmath
2:31 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles I lean toward homeschooling because I fear the battle with teachers over math - nobody unschools like they should #HSMath
2:32 am Turkeydoodles: Anyone into Marilyn Burns? #HSmath
2:32 am nolamom76: Math for preschoolers any suggestions besides just learning her numbers, I know that's the biggest one #hsmath
2:32 am mathfour: Oh, yeah, and I write iPhone apps for oilfield math. And have the blog to help anyone teaching math. #HSMath
2:32 am SchoolmarmDE: @mathfour My father was an engineer. SUCH battles over what he knew compared to my school approach. Awful. #HSMath
2:32 am mathfour: @SchoolmarmDE *swoon* Indeed! #HSMath
2:33 am mathfour: @nolamom76 Great topic - math for preschoolers! #HSMath
2:33 am Turkeydoodles: One to one correspondance, patterns, symmetry, shapes RT @nolamom76: Math for preschoolers any suggestions #HSmath
2:34 am SchoolmarmDE: @nolamom76 Different children "learn numbers" differently. Shape recognition, value, sequence... varies hugely. #HSMath
2:34 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles You've mentioned her before. I'll have to read up on her. (Marilyn Burns) #HSMath
2:34 am Turkeydoodles: I ran a program for preschoolers and parents last year. I have my handouts still! RT @mathfour: @nolamom76 math for preschoolers! #HSmath
2:34 am Turkeydoodles: MUST. DO. SRSLY!! RT @mathfour: @Turkeydoodles Youve mentioned her before. Ill have to read up on her. (Marilyn Burns) #HSmath
2:35 am Turkeydoodles: BRB #HSmath
2:35 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles I'd give my right arm to see those. (provided you give it back when I'm done) #HSMath
2:35 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles Alright - Marilyn Burns is on the top of my research list. #HSMath
2:35 am SchoolmarmDE: @Turkeydoodles And pardon, all, I'll do most posts as reply to keep them out of my general stream. #Twitter #HSMath
2:36 am Turkeydoodles: @mathfour I could make that happen. ;) You can see the program premise at LightbulbLab.org #HSmath
2:36 am mathfour: @SchoolmarmDE How about the topic of "math treatment" - like the engineer dad or mathphobic dad (or mom on either)? #HSMath
2:37 am nolamom76: @Turkeydoodles @mathfour would love to see those, going to start start more formal preschool stuff in the fall #hsmath
2:37 am Turkeydoodles: @mathfour MB wrote I hate Math, does fiction/non-fiction integration, REAL problem solving. Good stuff. #HSmath
2:37 am mathfour: @SchoolmarmDE That makes sense - I wondered what non partiers were thinking while I was doing this... *yipes* #HSMath
2:37 am Turkeydoodles: Patricia Kenschaft rocks too - great book called Math Power #HSmath
2:38 am SchoolmarmDE: @mathfour I definitely think 'What the family says about calculus" would be IMMENSELY valuable, lol. #HSMath
2:38 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles I'm all over it! Sounds great! Maybe we can discuss some of that in detail one night. (I'll buy a book) #HSMath
2:38 am Turkeydoodles: @nolamom76 @Turkeydoodles @mathfour I'd be happy to put together an outline of my program for you. #HSmath
2:39 am nolamom76: @Turkeydoodles @mathfour would love it #hsmath
2:39 am Turkeydoodles: @mathfour Check your library first - that is where I found her first. #HSmath
2:39 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles I used to offer my first born in exchange for stuff like that - before I had a first born. She's too cute, though. #HSMath
2:40 am Turkeydoodles: A lot of what I did in my preschool program was get parents thinking about math in a friendly way. Good role modeling! #HSmath
2:40 am mathfour: Any need for topic specific discussions - I'm not sure if a whole hour would work for that - maybe 2 half hours? #HSMath
2:40 am Turkeydoodles: Also? That math is more than arithmetic and algorithms! #HSmath
2:41 am SchoolmarmDE: @mathfour @Turkeydoodles It's like the old joke... what you'd charge for the potatoes you don't have. #HSMath #firstborn
2:41 am nolamom76: @Turkeydoodles I'm half hoping the 2 yr old learns it through osmosis listening to me teacher her brother LOL #hsmath
2:41 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles Topic: Thinking friendly about math-brilliant! (and its cousin - keeping their aunts/uncles thinking that way too #HSMath
2:42 am ColinTGraham: @mathfour Feel free to 'steal'/add ideas to #mathchat topics too! http://bit.ly/dVX6Xx #HSMath
2:42 am Turkeydoodles: Don't joke - my 2 yo DOES! RT @nolamom76: @Turkeydoodles Im half hoping the 2 yr old learns it through osmosis... #HSmath
2:42 am SchoolmarmDE: @Turkeydoodles I annoyed my kids by mentioning every time I ran into factors in a day, lol. ;) #HSMath
2:42 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles Okay - then how about: When to teach algorithms and how to reach beyond, as a topic? #HSMath
2:43 am nolamom76: @Turkeydoodles glad to know it's not a crazy idea #hsmath
2:44 am mathfour: @ColinTGraham Thanks, man! Nice to have you around. Friends, meet Colin from #mathchat. #HSMath
2:44 am Turkeydoodles: @mathfour I think that talking about the relative values of teaching algorithms would be good too #HSmath
2:44 am Turkeydoodles: Hi, Colin! ::waves::RT @mathfour: @ColinTGraham Thanks, man! Nice to have you around. Friends, meet Colin from #mathchat. #HSmath
2:44 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles @nolamom76 Just goes to show what those tiny minds are capable of! #HSMath
2:45 am nolamom76: So true RT @mathfour: @Turkeydoodles @nolamom76 Just goes to show what those tiny minds are capable of! #hsmath
2:45 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles Indeed - I'm a firm believer in steps and then understanding, unless they go the other way naturally/accidentally #HSMath
2:45 am Turkeydoodles: @mathfour Also, how to get kids out of formulaic thinking, and into RL applications, and knowing what to do in them! #HSmath
2:46 am ColinTGraham: Hi #HSMath Just don't count on me dropping by every week, even with Daylight Saving! You might want to consider Skype lessons for variety
2:46 am Turkeydoodles: @mathfour Yeah, I'm not sure that I AM a believer in steps first. I think understanding first gives steps meaning #HSmath
2:46 am mathfour: I'm so glad I'll be able to archive this - great stuff, y'all! #HSMath
2:47 am mathfour: @ColinTGraham Indeed - lots of tutors these days on skype. #HSMath
2:47 am Turkeydoodles: @ColinTGraham But then I can't chat in my jammies! ;) #HSmath
2:47 am ColinTGraham: Homeschooled kids working on a project for a week, say, then getting together to compare results live with other kids... #HSMath
2:47 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles Which means it will make for a fabulous topic! #HSMath
2:48 am nolamom76: @mathfour @ColinTGraham really tutors on Skype? Didn't know that #hsmath
2:48 am Turkeydoodles: @ColinTGraham THAT I'm all over, Colin! My daughter showed her new book to G'ma on Skype last week #HSmath
2:48 am Turkeydoodles: @mathfour We could bust out our geekiest tee shirts! >:) #HSmath
2:49 am mathfour: There's a new gaming program launching this week called Sokikom - I'll be reviewing it soon. Looks promising for learning math. #HSMath
2:50 am SchoolmarmDE: @ColinTGraham Rather be boiled in oil, but YMMV #HSMath
2:50 am Turkeydoodles: Keep us in the loop!RT @mathfour: Theres a new gaming program launching this week called Sokikom - Ill be reviewing it soon. #HSmath
2:50 am ColinTGraham: I did once, not Skype, but different age groups working on same thing shared results on 'deadline' day created lots of interaction #HSMath
2:50 am nolamom76: @ColinTGraham sounds like a good idea #hsmath
2:51 am mathfour: @nolamom76 I know two www.ZookTutoring.com and www.IgnitionTutoring.com #HSMath
2:51 am Turkeydoodles: @ColinTGraham Skype can be great for rural, disabled, medically fragile kids #HSmath
2:51 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles I used to have a pi shirt - irrational but well rounded *sigh* #HSMath
2:51 am ColinTGraham: @SchoolmarmDE Could have a project to discuss ideal oil temperatures... ;-) #HSMath
2:52 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles I shall - they might even give me some trials to hand out. We'll see. #HSMath
2:52 am Turkeydoodles: Lol! RT @mathfour: @Turkeydoodles I used to have a pi shirt - irrational but well rounded *sigh* #HSmath
2:52 am ColinTGraham: Anyway, I just dropped in to say "Hi!" and wish you luck/support with your chat. Homeschooling has lots of challenges... #HSMath
2:53 am SchoolmarmDE: @ColinTGraham Sounds like an experimental proof, to me. ;) #HSMath
2:53 am ColinTGraham: Yes, but "Don't try this at home!" RT @SchoolmarmDE: @ColinTGraham Sounds like an experimental proof, to me. ;) #HSMath
2:53 am mathfour: @ColinTGraham Thanks, Colin! #HSMath
2:53 am Turkeydoodles: @ColinTGraham Nice to meet you, Colin! #HSmath
2:55 am mathfour: @ColinTGraham Runs #mathchat every Thursday at 0 o'clock GMT (which today is 7pm CST - last week was 6pm CST) #HSMath
2:55 am mramidon: RT @mathfour: @ColinTGraham Runs #mathchat every Thursday at 0 o'clock GMT (which today is 7pm CST - last week was 6pm CST) #HSMath
2:55 am Turkeydoodles: So, we have quite the list! Preschool, using tech, online tutoring/practice methods, middle school, motivating students, etc. :) #HSmath
2:56 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles Indeed - when I archive I'll make a monster list. Then I'll put up a polling place so we can choose. How's that? #HSMath
2:56 am SchoolmarmDE: @Turkeydoodles Standardized testing... #HSMath
2:57 am Turkeydoodles: @mathfour Choose schmooze. Just dive in and grab one, and let's chat! But you want data, I know! ;) #HSmath
2:57 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles Polls are so fun - but indeed, grab and go works too. #HSMath
2:58 am Turkeydoodles: Curricula, math educators we love, math for people who think they hate math, the place of writing in a math program, etc #HSmath
2:58 am nolamom76: RT @Turkeydoodles: @mathfour Choose schmooze. Just dive in and grab one, and lets chat! But you want data, I know! ;) #hsmath
2:58 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles Really I just want to play with that tweet poll thing that @ColinTGraham uses. Poll envy, surely. #HSMath
2:58 am SchoolmarmDE: @Turkeydoodles @mathfour I spent half the day arguing about unnecessary data collection. #Nomore #HSMath
2:58 am Turkeydoodles: I never feel I have a good enough sample size! RT @mathfour: @Turkeydoodles Polls are so fun - but indeed, grab and go works too. #HSmath
2:59 am Turkeydoodles: @SchoolmarmDE All the data we generate each day - how much of it gets used, and worse, how much MEANS anything>? #HSmath
2:59 am mathfour: @SchoolmarmDE Clearly I'm outnumbered. Alrighty then, y'all. I'll pick one and we'll be back here next Thursday at 9pm CST. #HSMath
3:00 am mathfour: Keep your eyes peeled on my site for the topic if you wanna prepare ahead of time - or just come wild! #HSMath
3:00 am nolamom76: @mathfour that works for me #hsmath
3:00 am mathfour: I'll tweet it too as well as post it here: http://mathisnotafourletterword.com/homeschool-math-chat #HSMath
3:00 am Turkeydoodles: @mathfour Lol. You could still do a poll of, say, favorite color, and we could talk about teaching data analysis! ;) #HSmath
3:01 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles Late at night I sit in my closet with underpants on my head doing spreadsheets singing "Does your chewing gum lose... #HSMath
3:01 am SchoolmarmDE: @mathfour Well, I'm off to present opening.ThkU for hosting The big giveaway today is prime numbers! Help yourselves! 2,3,5,7,9,11.. #HSMath
3:01 am Turkeydoodles: Ooh - add stats and probability to that list. Citizen math, people! SO many people don't understand these! #HSmath
3:02 am mathfour: @Turkeydoodles Now THAT's a cool idea. (mine's peacock by the way - used to be pink) #HSMath
3:02 am mathfour: @SchoolmarmDE Thanks for joining us! See you next week! #HSMath
3:02 am Turkeydoodles: brown, here. :) #HSmath
3:03 am Turkeydoodles: @SchoolmarmDE Have a great one! I got good math geeky stuff for mine - hours ago! #HSmath
3:03 am SchoolmarmDE: @mathfour No, the topic was evaluating school teachers, my argument that they didn't control work enviro so didn't control outcomes. #HSMath
3:03 am mathfour: Okay, everyone, I'm officially saying goodbye. I might unofficially still tweet, but OFFICIALLY saying goodbye. Thanks bunches! #HSMath
3:03 am SchoolmarmDE: @mathfour Everyone always wants to dump on the teachers... makes me mad. #HSMath
3:04 am Turkeydoodles: @SchoolmarmDE Happy Birthday! :) #HSmath
3:04 am Turkeydoodles: Great meeting folks - thanks! #HSmath
3:04 am nolamom76: I'm off too, see you guys next week, thanks @mathfour for setting this up #hsmath
3:04 am nolamom76: Me too RT @SchoolmarmDE: @mathfour Everyone always wants to dump on the teachers... makes me mad. #hsmath
3:04 am mathfour: Next week #Homeschool #Math Twitter Party/Chat is on Thursday March 24 at 9pm CST. Topic will be chosen by Saturday. #HSMath
3:04 am SchoolmarmDE: @mathfour I said NINE? Oh, now I am embarrassed, lol. #HSMath #notreallyanidiot
3:05 am nolamom76: RT @mathfour: Next week #Homeschool #Math Twitter Party/Chat is on Thursday March 24 at 9pm CST. Topic will be chosen by Saturday. #hsmath
3:05 am mathfour: @nolamom76 @SchoolmarmDE I'm with you - teachers get the bad end of the stick. #HSMath